After Porn Ends 2

we're on the set of Lisa Ann's "big titted cougars."

Whew. Shocker that I would be in a cougar movie.

what's the difference with a cougar and a Milf?

My take is, a cougar and a Milf:

Milf is supposed to be a "mom that I'd like to fuck."

So I think that would make you a mom, right?

I think a cougar is the same older seductress,

But with no kids.

So I'm glad to say I'm a cougar,

Or I'm a Milf with no kids, whatever you prefer.

I feel like if you can't succeed in porn,

You kind of can't succeed anywhere.

'cause it's really not that difficult.

It's a skill we all have. You're fucking for a living.

People are like, "how are you the best?"

Like, um, "I showed up on time every time."

It's pretty hard to fail out of porn,

But it seems like everybody does it.

My last goal in my retirement letter

Was to write this book,

And it'll be one year on Tuesday.

So I did reach all of my goals.

This is it.

This is so exciting.

Whoa. Okay.

I don't want to hurt anything.

I'm gonna open it very carefully.

Now, everyone, this is so fucking dope.

Oh, look.

Oh!

My first two years I was under contract

With a company called Metro Home Video.

And being under contract was an ideal situation for me

Because I wanted to feature dance.

Back then, when you were the contract star,

They made these glamorous posters and fliers for you,

And they gave you as many as you wanted

To go out on the road and use as marketing materials.

You know, in the '90's when I started shooting,

I was unaware that all of the movies a contract girl shoots

Are sold to cable, and cable was still

A very big place where these companies made money.

Cable didn't buy interracial.

So I was unable to do interracial when I was under contract.

People were telling me all day long, like,

"if you do interracial, it's going to ruin your career.

"no one's going to hire you as a feature dancer.

You're going to make less money."

I don't really think we should be choosing color of skin

Because we should be showing everyone the sexual experiences that we are having,

And, of course, if there's couples that are interracial,

They might want to watch interracial porn.

And for you to not put that out for them, and they're a fan of yours,

Now they have an opinion to form.

It's a mainly-- it's, of course, a mainly white business,

All the company owners and the agents,

And they all are secretly racist.

So they all tell these girls not to do this.

And then I'm the one telling these girls,

"I've done more interracial than regular scenes, and I'm good."

But it's a fear factor for a young girl,

And of course, when you look up to your agent, he's been teaching you things,

You're gonna believe what he says.

Then when they finally do do interracial,

When they're not getting enough work doing other things,

They get paid more money for it.

Going to the post office myself.

'cause I want you all to get your books.

And I want you to enjoy them.

And I want to hear book reports, essays.

So, if you want to put the boxes just down,

And I'll put 'em in.

I'll just have you photograph me putting 'em in here.

Oh, shit. I just took a photo.

-of nothing.

How many do you think I can put in at a time?

More than that.

Don't jam it up. Don't jam it up.

These boxes took some getting used to making, you know what I mean?

Like, the first ten, there's so much tape on them.

Then I got a system going, you know.

What does that mean?

Is it stuck? Is it full?

What do we do now? Is there another one?

Yeah, the "paylin" movie pretty much single-handedly changed my entire life.

So I have fans coming in not because they're porn fans,

Just 'cause they thought that was hysterical.

I have people that, like, walk up to me now places,

And they're like, "right on," you know, "that was funny."

So it's just-- it broke a barrier for me.

did you expect it when you first shot it?

Did you think it was gonna go...

That big? No.

2008 I was on set shooting a movie,

And during my downtime I was checking my messages,

And it was drew from Hustler, and drew said, "hey,

"we want to shoot a movie about Sarah Palin,

And we want to call it "nailin' Paylin."

"who's nailin' Paylin?" which I thought was a great name.

We want to use you, you're perfect for it.

This is gonna kind of be a big deal.

Privyet. We hate to trouble you,

But I'm afraid we have a flat tire.

We were wondering if we could use your phone to call the Kremlin.

Oh, I'm sorry, fellas, I don't speak russian.

Kremlin. It means...

-How you say? -Tow truck.

Well, in the spirit of foreign relations,

I'm sure there's no harm in me letting the two of you in.

Come on in.

You know, the business lashed out at me.

Girls thought I stole that scene

Because someone else got the phone call at my agency,

But I insisted I did it.

It was really weird how when you get popular,

People who were nice to you last week

Just, like, venomously hate you

And are talking about you behind your back.

And at that point I realized,

"okay, well, I'm gonna have this,

"this is gonna keep me incredibly busy.

"fuck all these people.

"I'm gonna be able to charge more money.

"they already hate me. I know my value.

I know what I'm selling. I know what I'm doing."

When I went to strip clubs, I now had

An older audience, a younger audience,

A political audience, a gay audience,

Male audience, female audience.

My range was so incredible,

People walked up to me everywhere and they're like,

"it's that Sarah Palin girl. It's that Sarah Palin girl."

It was like, "this is it. This next four or five years

Could set up the rest of my fucking life."

Like, it's go time.

We're gonna be on the road every weekend.

We're gonna do 47 weekends a year.

We're gonna do crazy personal appearances.

We're gonna do tons of pr.

Everyone was offering me these opportunities, you know?

I remember getting invited to go to a couple good nude movie premieres,

Getting to go to some events.

Those are great photo opportunities for me.

And I knew that that is the way to stay relevant,

To brand yourself to different fans,

And to get yourself going out there in a social scene,

In a different light with your clothes on.

The more gigs I could do

Where it wasn't just about me fucking or being naked,

The more I could cross-pollinate

And start to get into what was gonna be my reality one day,

Being dressed.

All these shows are on Sirius, so Sirius will hit me up,

And one of the shows will hit me up and say,

"hey, so and so's coming through. Can you make it over?"

'cause they know I'm that close.

So I just get a shower, get dressed and go over.

These are opportunities for me that are priceless, right?

And everyone just treats me like, I'm part of the family 'cause I work there,

And I have my own name badges, and they don't have to worry about security at all.

And I feel like this little job

Has become the biggest opportunity of my life.

Okay. I'm gonna put this plan in motion.

It's gonna be a one-year plan.

I'm gonna produce this many movies

So I have this much content for my web site once I retire.

I was starting to plant the seeds that I wanted a sports show.

I was already working for Sirius at that time out here in LA

Doing a very fun, sexy show called "stripper town."

And by September 9th, 2013,

I started my very first show with Sirius.

"Lisa Ann does fantasy." it was my very first sports show.

You know, I said to my girlfriend today, I was explaining this to her,

And I said, "you know, you have kids and I don't.

It's like being a proud parent.

"when you're watching fantasy and one of your players does what you expected,

"or even more than you expected,

You feel like a proud parent."

if a girl wants to get into the adult business now,

What do you tell her?

Um, I'd talk with her about why.

You know, is she getting into the business 'cause she wants to explore herself sexually?

She feels that she is more unique than someone else?

Is she just a paycheck performer?

If so, what is she looking to do, big picture?

Because some girls think, you know,

"I'm gonna work for a year or two and make some money

And put it aside and then I'll do something else."

And I'm like, "yeah, you're not doing something else.

You're gonna have at any other job, someone's gonna know what you've done."

You have to be done with the business before the business is done with you.

And, to many people,

I've seen the business be done with them before they were ready,

And it's devastating.

Since I retired, I made a promise

That I would read at least one book a week.

And I feel like my brain was starting to go to mush

Because it was so easy to be the most successful porn star in the business

Because all I had to do was follow some really basic instructions.

I don't think I could ever walk away from being Lisa Ann the porn star.