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The enemies weren't always what they seem.
They were prepared to work and collaborate with one another
if it suited their interests.
And they were prepared to lie to us.
To tell us that they were never collaborating:
That they were involved in a war for our collective freedoms,
whoever "we" were at that point in history.
I think it's such a clear indication
of duplicity on all sides.
The world seemed straightforward in 1986.
It was divided into superpowers.
On the one hand were the Communists.
On the other, their enemies:
The capitalists.
But this was only half the truth.
Long live East Germany!
We've been duped. I think, as people across the world.
We were fed a particular history.
The Communists considered capitalism evil,
and were themselves considered evil.
But they had a secret.
A secret that made them
ever more similar to their enemies.
I came across this incredible story
of movement of weapons from East Germany
and this mysterious ship the Pia Vesta.
Where was it heading?
This is the story
of the 20th century's biggest lies.
It is the story
of the Cold War's secret relationships.
No morals! If the business is legitimate, do it.
It was always about business, never about politics.
SHADY BUSINESS UNDER THE IRON CURTAIN
Growing up as a young person
during the last years of the Apartheid regime,
and as a young white person during my school years,
I can recount having been exposed to
exactly the kind of propaganda.
The messages about this "red threat"
that was constantly being reinforced.
And the messaging of course was:
The Soviet Union was the evil empire
for Apartheid South Africa.
I'm Ronnie Kasrils,
born in Johannesburg, South Africa,
involved in the liberation struggle
against Apartheid all my adult life,
and I was a minister several times
in the democratic government,
first when Mr. Mandela was president in 1994.
And many portfolios through to 2008.
Well, what was Apartheid?
It was institutionalized racism.
Based on the control, exploitation,
and oppression of the black majority
by the white population,
which amounted to about ten percent of all the people.
When Sharpeville took place, this massacre,
I was 21 years old.
And it hit me with such a shock.
Black African people were protesting peacefully
against these documents...
these ID-documents that controlled their lives.
And 69 were killed on the spot
and another 250 were injured.
My idea of being part of public protests came to an end.
I became part of that armed struggle
and was involved initially in sabotage actions
against the regime in South Africa.
Against the visible signs of Apartheid
and the Apartheid institutions and offices.
We had no weapons ourselves.
Everything was monopolized by the white Apartheid regime.
An African in South Africa could not even own a gun.
We were able to turn to socialist countries
such as East Germany,
who were very prepared to provide us with
the training and weapons that we needed.
We had big training camps
in the forests and jungles in Angola.
And we were able to receive food, military clothing,
AK-47s,
and other such light weaponry, mortars,
and rocket propelled grenades.
And that would be delivered to us in ports
such as Dar es Salaam,
and particularly Luanda, Angola.
I would like to offer you the sincere greetings
and congratulations
of the workers of the German Democratic Republic.
The support we received in East Germany
was wholehearted.
And I want to say this: I was one of a few white people.
Most of our people were black.
And for them, to be trained
in a country by white officers who treated them as equals,
and very kindly, who didn't despise them.
To be waited on by German white women at the table,
people doing all the work in the kitchen,
doing the cleaning, it was a huge eye-opener.
But most important was our own theater of struggle.
We developed armed groups in South Africa,
so the struggle was really taken into
the heartland of the Apartheid state.
The fight against Apartheid
seemed an important mission for the socialist lands.
Simultaneously, the heads of the superpowers
began to hold talks about nuclear disarmament.
The President of the United States
shook the hand of the Soviet Union's head of state.
But good will didn't suffice in 1986,
and no agreement was reached.
The Cold War went cheerfully on.
The states in the south of Africa
had become the playground of the superpowers.
The CIA and other secret services
covertly supported the allies of the Apartheid regime.
The Soviets, the East Germans and the Cubans
supplied the other side.
But this wasn't the whole of the truth.
One would hear from time to time,
and it would usually be
projected in the western press,
that the Soviet Union or East Germany or China
has got some business deals going.
We didn't believe this.
We were sure that the boycott of South Africa was total
when it came from the socialist countries.
It appears that the decade of the 1980s,
just at the time that militarization was taking place,
that the weapon sanctions were starting to take effect
against Apartheid South Africa,
that there was a desire to look for new markets.
And the East Bloc was definitely
of great interest to the Apartheid government.
My colleagues and I,
we were working through the archives
the South African military intelligence had declassified.
We were sitting in one of the dusty rooms
and came across this incredible document
that spoke about a man by the name of Starckmann
whom I'd never heard of.
It was a meeting between South African
and French top intelligence officials.
And the South Africans had said that Starckmann
owed them approximately 20 million dollars.
The market for such deals was much smaller than today.
At that time there wasn't so much exchange
between the states.
There were always middlemen who did the deals.
THE MIDDLE MAN
At that time there were maybe ten of us.
That's all.
In 1986,
I was visited by people representing
a South African special army unit.
A pastor and army general who was accompanied by
a man from the realm of politics.
They wanted to buy weapons to send them to Angola.
The weapons in question were Soviet ones
which they believed could be bought in East Berlin.
FRIEDRICHSTRASSE STATION
I contacted a friend,
a German named Heinz Pollmann.
He was in contact with the IMES, which was part of the Stasi.
We met in a building on Friedrichstrasse in Berlin.
A car brought me across the border
and straight to the office.
I asked them about the goods that the South Africans wanted.
They explained to me
that they couldn't deliver this material to South Africa.
I told them that I no longer cared,
and that I would also buy other material,
and they said I could have everything I wanted.
We didn't discuss any further details,
but they were no idiots.
They knew exactly I was buying weapons from them
that were intended to fight Communists abroad.
East Berlin got about seven million.
The money was sent from South Africa
to a bank in Luxembourg.
Luxembourg sent the money to Spain,
because things were easier from there.
From Spain, we transferred it directly into
the National Bank in East Berlin.
One of our starting questions was not only to understand
how hardware was moved around the world,
but it was precisely to follow the money trail.
Those same bank accounts that were used to transfer money
to arms companies in France or Italy or the United Kingdom
or to the CIA and others,
were precisely the same bank accounts
that were being used to transfer monies
between Communist countries and Pretoria at the same time.
It's amazing because they would
almost wash this cash free of any ideology,
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