Hellier

I’m Greg Newkirk.

In 2012, I received a panicked email from a man named David Christie.

A man who claimed that small alien creatures were emerging from an

abandoned mineshaft near his rural Kentucky home,

and terrorizing his family.

While initially skeptical of his story, David followed up his emails

with a collection of photographs which showed the three-toed footprints

left by the so-called goblins.

And what he said were even images of the creatures themselves.

Then he disappeared without a trace.

According to David, a man named Terry Wriste had referred him to me.

I had never heard the name before, and the only reference to Terry that

I could find was in the appendix of an occult book titled

"Secret Cipher of the UFOnauts."

In an interview, which discussed his exploits cracking extraterrestrial codes

and infiltrating underground alien cave bases.

Then in 2013, I received a cryptic email from Terry Wriste himself.

The emails contained what appeared to be GPS coordinates,

and a note asking why we stopped investigating David's case

when we were so close to the answers.

Terry never emailed again.

In 2017, spurred on by a flood of synchronicities, filmmaker

Karl Pfeiffer contacted me about the case which had long since gone cold.

Convinced that the story warranted following up,

Karl recruited paranormal investigator Connor Randall,

and along with my wife Dana, a life-long hedgewitch,

we travelled to the heart of the case.

A small mining community by the name of Hellier, Kentucky.

While there, we continued to be bombarded by synchronicities,

and, most unexpectedly, uncanny connections to the

Mothman Case, which transpired in 1967 in Point Pleasant, West Virginia.

In particular, connections to an alien entity who went by the name Indrid Cold.

By the end of our time in Hellier,

it was clear that no one by the name of David Christie had ever lived

in the broader Pike County area.

Yet we left with the feeling that while we'd gone to Eastern Kentucky

in search of goblins,

we'd found something else inside those mountains:

something old;

something asleep;

something

that was already waiting for us to find it.

I just saw like a tin can

it just jumped into my mind.

Why is this here, you know?

Some other force had led us to this. And I didn't know if we

should be following along to whatever this thing wanted us to

be following along to.

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

Did you hear that?

We sound fucking crazy.

You will lose your fucking minds.

But maybe it's Terry Wriste who I want to get in touch even more.

Because it sounds like he's the person who instigated the whole thing.

I don't know, maybe you have a place we're supposed to go next.

How's everybody doing tonight?

Everybody good? You're going to be good. You're going to be real good

in about 10 minutes.

We will talk to you guys very soon we'll see you on Saturday night.

Yay, see you Saturday!

- Adios amigos, thank you for tuning in we'll talk to you very soon.

Yeah.

- It was sent to my personal email, at Weird HQ at 9:10 tonight.

9:10...

Right after we finished our live stream.

- Like literally right after we finished our live stream.

What the fuck, exactly it's pointed. Ok.

- And again, you're going to those coordinates tomorrow, right?

I'm gonna fucking die is what she's saying!

. Yeah, go on.

It's just the timing is very bizarre.

...wrote back at 3:58 AM.

3:58 AM. - Holy shit.

I don't know.

This is, this is just... unbridled insanity.

Holy shit.

Helicopter!

Oh my God! Look at this.

Oh shit, they know I'm here.

Fuck.

Honestly I'm a little... the case is a little overwhelming.

To a certain extent.

Because it's gotten to this point--

Season one had some relatively deliberate goals.

And season two now, everything that we've been filming

and researching for the last year.

It's been very similar to that sort of start and stop

situation of the first couple days in Hellier.

Lead, dead end, lead, dead end.

We have so many leads now and so many avenues of research,

but what do we do with them? What do we do with the information

that's gained, if there's even any information gained.

And that's a little bit stressful, in that there's so many avenues

and rabbit holes to go down.

But we don't want to get too far

from what made this case unique, either.

When Karl tagged me for Hellier, to help out with this,

and I joined this project,

and I think this needs to be stressed,

We literally thought we were going to make maybe an hour, hour and a half

long little documentary about trying to find this guy who saw goblins.

We really thought that it was going to be a cut and dry project.

Instead, what we were given is the largest case of our lives.

It's funny, my focus has shifted.

The paranormal has always been a passion of mine, since my early teenage years,

since I got a job at The Stanley, since I worked on all this ghost work,

then sort of got more interested in aliens, then was asked to help out

with Hellier,

it was always sort of like a side passion though.

Hellier, and the passion that it has sort of struck a chord with me

in this research overall, in the phenomena,

--in paranormal phenomena in general,

has really redirected that for me.

I think... hmm...

Let me think of the way to word this...

I think more so this year he has kind of perfected

the not allowing something to get too much a part of his everyday life.

So he's gotten really good at like 'this is when I focus on this,

and when I'm not focusing on this I try not to focus too much on it.

Because I think the thing specifically with this case

is that it's so consuming that you could literally sit for hours

and multiple days just

thinking about everything, trying to put everything together.

And I think that he was probably more like that in the beginning,

and I think that over the course of the years that we've sort of been focusing

on this case,

distancing yourself a little bit from it

and kind of giving it the time and not allowing it to take over,

is probably becoming what he's better at.

Whereas, it used to be much different before.

But I think for him now there is that sense of sort of "it's healthier to

keep it as a case, and not something that invades constantly that you're

thinking about all the time.

I think there's a lot of things that make this different than

other mysteries we've come across.

I mean, this is the first time I've ever looked seriously into goblins.

This is the first time I've ever taken the story of Indrid Cold

very seriously.

I think that if anything this story

has led me to examine other paranormal phenomena

that I've been invested in a little bit harder and

a little bit deeper. And maybe look at the idea of

how synchronicity comes to play

in a lot of the other cases that we work on.

One of the things that always

struck me as strange about the case is that when it popped up

it was sent to a group of ghost hunters.

Because we're ghost hunters we're looking at it in a

way that if someone... if a cryptozoologist got that email,

they would look at it purely from a physical standpoint.

Oh, there's strange creatures.

We're looking at it from a completely other perspective.

I mean, we've got people who know things about conspiracies helping

with the team. We've got people who know things about UFO's

helping with the team.

How does psychic phenomena play into it?

How does the contactee visitation play into it?

It's I think de facto the biggest mystery that we've ever worked on.

Because it intersects with everything.

Woah!

Oop! Oop!

Again, hit that.

Trying to be silenced!

Trying to be silenced here.

I want you to begin by saying how you met Greg and Dana.

The way that I met Greg and Dana was actually in a strange roundabout way.

I actually learned about them through John Tenney

and seeing his connections and trusting those connections.

And it wasn't until I was able to meet up with them,

actually at an event in Michigan, where we kind of hit it off.

I think in a really big way.

And I think we've both seen value in each other.

And it gave me a sense that we wanted to work with each other

and I think we almost met halfway in a lot of ways.

I described Tyler a little when he first

synchronistically popped up in the case,

as the most excited dog you've ever met in a black vest.

A black, embroidered, vest.

I think that still holds true.

Tyler, kind of, I mean he's supposed to be a part of the case.

The fact that he synchronistically popped up with all that information.

He was obviously supposed to be there.

Tyler Strand came to this case in a very similar way

that I did. It was synchronicity.

He was invited to the team by a synchronicity that seemed to be so

far outside of himself.

And outside of us, that it seemed important for him to join up.

Tyler is... he's like the embodiment of enthusiasm.

Like if you were to take enthusiasm and put it in a little vial,

that's Tyler. He's 100% enthusiastic about it all.

And I think that it's very contagious, which I love.

I think that he's a great researcher and I think that's he has definitely

helped us look at this differently.

Tyler is our recon man.

We send him out places before everybody else goes out

and he looks at all these little, you know, capillaries of the case.

Greg holds onto the more intense things, you know, the arteries per se,

and we all have our little branches.

Tyler looks in detail on the ground.

Not interviewing people, but going to the actual locations